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| The short thought December 4th, Kansas City: The non-discussion about abortions |
| The shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado brought the question once more into the media, but a real discussion remains impossible. So, okay, lets be clear here, someone who went into a public facility, of what form ever and kills people to further his ideological agenda is a domestic terrorist in my book and thus, he would be in my opinion also a candidate for capital punishment. But then, this shooting will change nothing, but so won't any attempts of a reasonable discussion. The fronts are just too hard and the more hateful the propaganda goes on both sides of the aisle, the more we have to expect more violent outbreaks of that kind. If one side goes extreme, the other goes too. That is not right, but it is what it is. The liberal position is clear: The womb is part of the mother's body and nobody can tell her what to do with her body. And as clear is the failure in this position because abortion involves obviously also the baby's body. It's not the mother who is hacked to pieces alive to get removed. And of course, most abortion promoters avoid to answer a question, I would consider the acid test: "What if their mothers would have had the abortion rights, they fight for? How many of them would even be living today?" Despite single claims, they wouldn't care (which would be only an indicator as how worthless some liberals consider their own lives), most abortion-promoters avoid this question or label it as "unfair" without ever answering it. Now, as a side line for the whole abortion mess, there was Planned Parenthood and the selling of baby parts. The whole story put even more oil to the fire. That was raw and emotional and it didn't help, that the current administration refused any serious investigation into these accusations and fought from the first moment for Planned Parenthood as their political pet. This was for many proof, laws are not valid when it comes to crimes committed by liberals under a liberal administration and when a government breaks the laws or supports breaking them, there is, in the eyes of many, a right to resist, even a duty to resist. Now, neither the use of violence per se is justified nor the choice of target because at the end of the day, the victims you find in any clinic are mostly just patients, civilians, if you want to stretch this kind of term. But the underlying thinking behind this shooting is clear and the more liberals will abuse their power in the months, Obama is still in office, the harder the fronts will get and whoever is out there, he better have mercy for us all if Hillary Clinton becomes President because we can already see from her own speeches and acts, she will be neither an integrative President nor one, who respects the laws. | Now, the conservative point of view ... well, actually, there is not just ONE point.
 Robert Lewis Dear, the PP shooter ... now tell me the nutjobs go first violent on every side of the spectrum ...Religious conservatives basically consider life beginning with the moment of sex which also includes their denial of contraceptives. More moderate conservatives without religious bindings consider that there is a point, where an embryo starts to show reactions to outside effects like music and where a baby actually starts to move in the mother's womb. So the whole conservative view depends on when one sees the fertilized egg developing into something alive. Nevertheless, all variants of those views are in hard contradiction with a liberal view that considers abortion till the moment of birth a right derived from the mother's right on her own body. Well, most civilized coutnries have abortion laws that limit the altest point in time where an abortion can be lawfully performed. It would be a model that in one form or the other would be usable in the US. But it would be the kind of compromise that makes the extremes on both sides unhappy. It would mean for example, no abortions after the 16th week of pregnancy (just to call a number, we could discuss this). So the religious extreme and the liberal extreme would be both on the barricades because such a law would prevent abortions of convenience till the latest possible moment and it would allow abortions in an early phase of pregnancy. And since it's always the extreme going violent, it would be a reasonable compromise that does nothing to stop further violent outbreaks. And if it's not abortion, in a country polarized as the US under Obama are, people will find other reasons to go rampant. So abortion is just a tiny little part of the whole picture. But it is an important part and we need finally to deal with the problem. A time limit would also render the whole question of rape victims obsolete. Rape victims usually decide pretty fast whether | they want to abort a pregnancy caused by a sex crime. Don't let yourself be fooled by the numbers thrown around currently in liberal lamestream outlets. They claim (just last week), more than 100,000 women were injured in Texas during home abortions and a significant share of those women had been rape victims. That's just propaganda line. There hadn't been a hundred-thousand pregnancies at all in Texas last year and for sure not tenthousands of rapes. Those numbers are pure invention to manipulate voters. Rape victims who find out they are pregnant as a consequence of the rape decide usually in the first six weeks whether they want to abort (actually, a suprising number decides not to because they can't punish the baby for the crime, the unknown father committed agaisnt the mother). Thus a time limit law wouldn't block these decisions because in the 16th week this kind of victims has already decided and acted in the first place. Nevertheless, a word of warning: Such a law will only work if the government authorities stick to it. The law has to be enforced. Operators of abortion mills have under such a law treated as murderers if they abort after the time limit. And attackers on abortion clinics which perform abortions only before the time limit has to be treated as well as murderers. Forced abortions, for example when the father forces the mother to go to such a clinic, even if it's before the time limit, have to be punished at least as manslaughter and crazy as mankind sometimes is, we will end up probably with the need for punishment for guys who lock their girl firends in to prevent abortions before the time limit. And to make the point also clear: Abortion doctors selling baby parts and tissue without the mother's knowledge need to go to jail as well. Not the slap on the wrist kind of going to jail but for a long time to set an example. Then, and only then, it could work. But then, are we mature enough even to discuss this possible solution or will we all get goaded along by the extreme positions again? - PB - |
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